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This websites 2010 General Election Poll has received over 1,000 votes for the BNP (British National Party) and hundreds of supporting comments from BNP supporters who argue (amongst other things) that the BNP are no longer (or has never been) a racist political party.
That sort of discussion isn’t really what I created the general election poll page for, so hoping to bring that sort of debate to this page.
So open question to all, are the BNP Racists?
And what the hell, lets have a poll :-)
Loading ...Based on the comments below I’m including a definition of racism from Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism (Wikipedia the definitive, most accurate source of information on the Internet :-)).
Racism is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or get preferential treatment.
Racial discrimination typically points out taxonomic differences between different groups of people, although anyone may be discriminated against on an ethnic or cultural basis, independently of their somatic differences. According to the United Nations conventions, there is no distinction between the term racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination.
I think it’s fair to say if a political party promotes racial discriminating ideologies, it’s a racist political party.
I also stumbled upon the term racialism, various online dictionaries define the term as:
1. An emphasis on race or racial considerations, as in determining policy or interpreting events.
2. Policy or practice based on racial considerations.
Chiefly British Variant of racism.
And from Wikipedia:http://www.thefreedictionary.com/racialism
Racialism is an emphasis on race or racial considerations.
Racialism entails a belief in the existence and significance of racial categories, but not necessarily in a hierarchy between the races, or in any political or ideological position of racial supremacy.
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383 responses to Are the BNP Racists Poll?
It has been proven that immigration policy was a social experiment by the labour party for political reasons.
It has caused the destruction of the English way of life forever in many parts of England.
No need to take a holiday in India to see how they live, huge ares of this county are like Asia.
The BNP are the only hope for my Grandchildren to live in England once more.
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Another BNP lie, it has not been proved at all.
The BNP speculate the sort of rubbish you just posted, but it is not proof.
Here’s some advice to all BNP supporters:
Don’t believe everything you read on the BNP website, the BNP lie all the time.
Now that’s been proved time and time again.
David
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george2 – reading your comments, I can see that you are racist, homophobic and ultimately and idiot. What people do in the bedroom is no concern of yours and frankly they cant change who they are. Just like Nick Griffin cant change the fact he is a racist nazi and the BNP cant change its disgraceful ways.
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common sense, in reply to the comments you posted to me, let me start by saying I am not racist my nephew is mixed race and has for gays maybe I don’t aggree with two men/women making love but thats up to them, I am entitled to my views the same as you are, I have two grown up daughters married to decent working men also grandkids, I wouldn’t love them any less if they was gay, and as for me being an idiot, I wont even dignify that with an answer…
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Well, by supporting a racist and homophobic party like the BNP you are giving off the wrong messages. In your naivety, you claim to have a problem with homosexuals, but have no problem with homosexuals if they are part of your family…clear contradiction. The point is, you have blatantly contradicted your views on homosexuality as all homosexuals do the same thing, and if your children were gay they would do the same. You may not be an idiot, I accept perhaps that was harsh in the heat of the moment, but one thing you certainly are George is discriminatory and contradicting.
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common sense, I will try again, I didn’t say I had a problem with gays(read my posting) I said I don’t agree with it, meaning their lifestye, I also said it’s up to them, how is that Homophobic, I’d say most staight people don’t agree with Homosexuality, it does’nt make us all gay-haters.
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you said you dont agree with it, meaning you have a problem with it 0_o Which is homophobic, because you clearly dont understand its meaning…I would say that most straight people dont have a problem with homosexuality, they just aren’t gay themselves. You are making ridiuclous assumptions just like Nick Griffin, that most people find homosexuals ‘really creepy’.
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BNP Constitution Still Discriminates on Race
Judge Paul Collins ruled: “I hold that the BNP are likely to commit unlawful acts of discrimination within section 1b Race Relations Act 1976 in the terms on which they are prepared to admit persons to membership under the 12th addition of their constitution.”
According to a British court today the BNP still haven’t got their constitution right. Weeks before a general election when they need money for campaigning and the BNP have their members list still closed because they still haven’t complied with the Race Relations Act!
The BNP will also have to pay the court costs again.
Looks like the BNP membership gave Griffin the ability to change the constitution without another membership vote and on the BBC news the reporter said Griffin was on the phone to their legal advisers, so they might have another less discriminatory constitution already lined up.
What a bunch of numpties the BNP leadership are to let this run on so close to the general election when they have no money for campaigning.
David
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well David do you want to live in an undemocratic country because that is what it will be if we can’t vote for what we want, i think the polls are showing that there will be more votes for the BNP than what the Labour Party baragained for
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Recent by-elections are showing the BNP vote has died since the EU elections.
I think I’ll put a £500 bet on the BNP gaining no MPs at the general election, wonder what the odds are?
David
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I think I’ll put a £500 bet on the BNP gaining no MPs at the general election, wonder what the odds are?
Whys that then David?, you trying to get the money back you lost at the European elections.
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LOL, have to admit that’s funny.
David
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I have followed the BNP issue and I am convinced that BNP members are very shallow minded.
Racism is a tool of the weak. A person that prides himself superior to the other by reason of colour or creed (which is by accident of birth), is outrightly indolent, because your colour does not matter; you are rich you are rich, you are poor you are poor.
Racism in this global village, can only be in the imagination of the sick. Everybody is everywhere, Europeans are in America, Americans are in Europe, Africans are in Europe, Europeans are in Africa, Asian are in America and Americans are in Asia. For any Nation to discriminate against people in this Global Community will be nothing but Economic suicide. If we don’t want them, others are waiting for them to come and with their possessions too.
Africa is already lost to China, but some people still think the problem here is immigration. Tolerance is now the most potent weapon for development in this century. America is a massively multiracial society, they have accepted it completely and they have benefited from it tremendously. London is economically viable because people came. Take them out and ask the question “How far can we go?”
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Personally i don’t think the BNP are racist in anyway, hence why i am voting for them this year. I do urge everyone to vote even if it is not for the bnp because if you do not vote your vote goes towards the party that is in power as of this moment, as we all know it is labour.
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i shall never vote for bnp, i do see thier point on some issues but i cannot see past the obvious racism within the party,they know they cannot be openly racist in the public eye, so they dress it up. I’d rather gordon brown was in power for the rest of my life than have evil nick griffen in charge. I think anyone who denys the party is racist is probably a little racist themselves, they just dont want to admit it. In my opinion BNP = the british nazi party↲↲
i’d have to think what our country would be like with him in charge, it sends a shiver down my spine
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The BNP don’t believe any one race is superior, just that we indigenous British have a right to our own identity in our own country. Just as Africans deserve an identity and a homeland, so too do we ethnic europeans. If you say that is rascist, then you are calling any ethnic group who ever wanted their country for their own kin rascist. All ethnic grous feel this way. Japan has a Japanese-only citizen olicy, are Japanese rascists? Does that ‘send a shiver down your spine’ as the last poster said. Open your mind. Rascism is a label used to silence anyone who doesnt want mass immigration. I no longer recognise it and the cronies who use it to push their agenda.
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What’s an ethnic European?
There’s a book “Ethnic Groups in Europe: Ethnic group, Anthropology, Minority group, Languages of Europe, History of Europe, Immigration to Europe, Culture of Europe, Western culture, Religion in Europe, Christendom”
Book description:
“The European peoples are the various nations and ethnic groups of Europe. European ethnology is the field of anthropology focusing on Europe. Pan and Pfeil (2004) count 87 distinct “peoples of Europe”, of which 33 form the majority population in at least one sovereign state, while the remaining 54 constitute ethnic minorities. The total number of national minority populations in Europe is estimated at 105 million people, or 14% of 770 million Europeans. There is no precise or universally accepted definition of the terms “ethnic group” or “nationality”. In the context of European ethnography in particular, the terms ethnic group, people (without nation state), nationality, national minority, ethnic minority, linguistic community, linguistic group and linguistic minority are used as mostly synonymous, although preference may vary in usage with respect to the situation specific to the individual countries of Europe. ”
There’s apparently 87 distinct peoples of Europe with 33 being the predominant population of at least one state and the remaining 54 ethnic minorities presumably are not the predominant population of a state.
So which of the 87 ethnic groups (or 33 if you want to use the ethnic groups that are the majority in at least one state) do you consider “ethnic Europeans”?
It’s a sad day when British people believe the majority of Europe is white! Thank God BNP supporters are in the minority.
BTW I don’t want mass immigration, we have enough British born layabouts as it is without letting anyone in who can afford a cheap train/plane ticket. I want controlled immigration where highly skilled foreign workers are welcome in Britain as they add to our economy and our culture.
If only we could do a one for one swap of highly skilled immigrant workers for the average BNP knuckle dragging idiot who thinks white is the only colour skin we should see in Britain today! Guess the problem is which country would want the BNP supporters?
David
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The problem is idiots like you wanting knife-wielding foreign maniacs in our country
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How does wanting more highly skilled immigrants and NO more unskilled immigrants, relate to “wanting knife-wielding foreign maniacs in our country”?
Unless you’ve misunderstood and thought when I said highly skilled immigrants I was referring to highly skilled in wielding a knife?
I realise the average BNP voter wasn’t at the front of the queue when they gave out intelligence, so to confirm I did NOT mean “highly skilled in wielding a knife” I meant highly skilled in areas we need more trained workers like the NHS.
To any BNP supporter with even half a brain, please explain why you don’t want highly skilled foreign workers in Britain when they add to our economy? Don’t you realise they pay some of your benefits!
I wonder how many highly skilled British workers vote BNP, you know Doctors, scientists etc…? I bet you can’t find many graduates that vote BNP :-)
David
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I agree with John Doe, some of these foreigners rob us murder us treat our women like rubish because it’s their culture, if we say anything we are violating their human rights, if we support BNP we are racist, Nick Griffin has had to put up with being dragged through the courts by people trying to bankrupt the BNP..why?.. because they know people are listening to the man, he is getting backing and they are worried he will upset the apple-cart, he wants illegal immigrants out, what’s wrong with that, we wants tougher sentences for crminals regardless who they are, murders should be executed, why keep them in a luxury our senior citizens don’t get, make prison a place that they don’t want to go back to, rubbish like..Ian Huntley who murdered them little girls watching colour tv in his cell with all his arrogance thinks he’s bad done to..BNP get my vote, rid the country of the scum.
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“some of these foreigners rob us murder us treat our women like rubish because it’s their culture”
That also describes quite a few British born people. Or are you in BNP dream world where everything that’s wrong with the country is the bloody immigrants fault?
I’d hate to live in a country where the CULTURE is to “rob, murder and treat their women like rubbish”.
I’ll give you the treat their women like rubbish part for some cultures, though that also describes how the BNP treat women. So which countries is it their culture is to rob and murder their fellow citizens? Please provide references if they exist.
Your type of comment is the same as saying some BNP supporters are racists Nazi’s because it’s their culture. The first part of the statement is true, of course some BNP supporters are racists Nazi’s, but does it accurately describe BNP culture?
David
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Take one little tiny minute and get off your band wagon: replace the word “Nazi” “racist” and any other name you have derogatorily used to describe the BNP….now as you have mentally removed them, put in the word “pc” and you will find that what the BNP are saying is just as similar as what the other parties are saying. Just the BNP want to step up to the plate and put forward all the things that the other parties have said over the years but as time goes on, gets a little squeamish. All people are not pc, we all have our thoughts and even our doings which prove this no matter how big or small – WE ARE ALL NOT PC!
I think the BNP party should be more forceful over and above what they have put in their manifesto, like;
-all schools will wear school uniforms
(bringing back pride to the schools, and assisting a workforce to provide these uniforms)
-1 child paid for any other the parent pays for by the parent
(this will make benefits easier and save the government millions, as well as bringing down sexual transmitted diseases)
-if you aren’t going to Uni, then compulsory subscription
(this will keep the riff raff off the streets and give them a sense of purpose and honour)
-enforce our national saints day
we are British so why can’t we acknowledge this
-point system for immigrants trying to enter Britain
Australia does it and no one has ever complained about them being racists
-matrons should be reintroduced to hospitals wards
this will ensure more work and but also assist/bring down the infections in hospitals
-ambulances should not be used as glorified taxi
if you are that sick, I’m sure that a flat fee of £20.00 will be nothing in cases of real emergencies
-if you have been in constant 2 year employment then you are able to apply for benefits
-visitors to the UK should be monitored more closely that they leave on time and not fade into the system.
-give more power to policemen/policewomen who are there to protect us, yet they are scolded should the criminal put in a complaint. In the USA their police are armed and millions visit there every year and no one say’s boo to them being too hostile
-give everyone in authority the power to make decisions that they feel will benefit the masses, and if they abuse this power action can be taken swiftly from government.
This is a Christian country and must be seen as that and respected as such (I’m not religious) but I know full to well if I go to most other countries and disrespect their culture I will have to pay the consequences…travel agents now hand out booklets on the countries etiquettes (do’s and don’t), would love to see what is said about ours….
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To say this is an open discussion and i empisize the word discussion it seems some people on here are very one track minded towards the BRITISH NATIONAL PARTY (YES NATIONAL NOT NAZI). (Which may i point out is in now way connected to the Independent German Workers Party more commonly known as the Nazi party) Some people on here try to force peoples opinions to move away from the BNP, its controlling like this which HAS to stop. The labour party has controlled this country so much that im suprised we still have free thinking, because in NO WAY do we have free speech. Were not allowed to smoke in public places such as bars and pubs etc yet they did not concider the knock on effect of the landlords/ladys and club owners ever since the smoking ban MANY pubs and clubs have closed down due to lack of custom and unemployment. Also the raising of tax, WHAT FOR? Just so they can sit there in their nice 5 bed detached house and place cigs and alcohol onto their expenses? (which is actually THEFT try walking into your local store and getting a pack of cigs, newspaper and toilet roll and say “Hey, Don’t worry my expenses will cover it.” the store guard or shop owner will call the police.) Personally i think this is outragous. And the ongoing war in Iraq (which may i remind you all it is being covered for by yet again TAXES) has to stop its a never ending fight young boys are dying al for a meaningless cause Labour lied about the WMD however if BNP were in power and OUR Countries troops were sent over seas to fight another counteries battle under false cause people would have sniffed this out before the first troop got onto the plane and Nick would be in prison held against the geneva convention unlike the labour party which have gotten away scott free yet again. This is why I AM voting for the BNP conservative had a chance and blew it Labour has had far too many im giving my vote to someone who actualy deserves it.
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“some people on here are very one track minded towards the BRITISH NATIONAL PARTY”
I couldn’t agree more, take your comment that does nothing but trash the Labour party and Conservative party even though the BNP would be no different, in fact I’d argue worse, since the BNP is filled with lying criminals (the BNP leader is a convicted racist).
Talk about one tracked minded, just looking at the BNP through rose coloured glasses.
You say the BNP has no affiliation with the Nazis, yet the founder of the British National Party had Nazi/fascist ideologies, you can even find pictures of him online wearing Nazi uniforms in front of a Nazi Swastika!
I find it hard to believe people would join an openly racist/white supremacists/Nazi/fascist/anti-semitic political party like the BNP (which it was when it first formed as a splinter group from the National Front: I take it they are misunderstood choir boys!), but now it no longer supports those abhorrent racist/white supremacists/Nazi/fascist/anti-semitic views openly, even though it’s run by the same people that was running it when it was openly racist/white supremacists/Nazi/fascist/anti-semitic.
So we are to believe all those people that have been part of the BNP for over a decade have all changed their views at the same time?
The BNP leaders that used to be racist/white supremacists/Nazi/fascist/anti-semitic politically speaking are now changed, they are:
No longer racist.
No longer white supremacists.
No longer supporting Nazi ideologies.
No longer supporting fascist ideologies.
No longer anti-semitic or holocaust denying.
People like Nick Griffin are reformed characters just looking to make Britain a better place to live for anyone that’s not Muslim or an immigrant and that’s preferably white or agrees whites and non whites really shouldn’t have children together as it messes up the white race genetic purity.
Yep, I’m convinced, I don’t understand why anyone would doubt the British National Party, for feck sake, it’s got British in it’s name so HAS to be on the level!
David
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Even IF they are “lying criminals” (which the majority of government partys are anyway) atleast they are not robbing us blind JUST like the labour party are and have been. No i am not looking at the BNP through rose coloured glasses im looking at the bigger picture, ever since Enoch Powell took the first stand AGAINST the Conservative party HE and anoyone that followed him was classed as a racist such as people do with the BNP today. How ever i DO admit SOME of the BNP members (not of the political party itself) are racists however some arenot some (like me) just want to give a different party a fighting chance against the oppressors.
“you can even find pictures of him online wearing Nazi uniforms in front of a Nazi Swastika!”
By all means link us all to this picture concidering its amazing what you can do with Photoshop nowdays.
“No longer racist.
No longer white supremacists.”
As said before SOME of the members that SUPPORT the political party are racist some ARE NOT however i can not say for the political party its self as unfortunatly i have not met them yet.
“No longer supporting Nazi ideologies.”
This has to be the most utter rubbish i have heard about the BNP. So in your opinion the BNP does the goosestep while saluting at a 45 degree angle shouting “sieg heil” also the BNP and party follwers kill jews, blacks, asains and any other race, creed or religion that isnot to their standards? This must be a dark dark world we live in concidering i have never seen any behaviour of this sort apart from a few documentaries (minus the killing for tv) on telly and WW2 movies
“No longer anti-semitic or holocaust denying.”
Yet again related to the one previous and i have never heard ONE person the the whole of my life (including some of my fellow bnp supporters)DENY that the holocaust happend.
“People like Nick Griffin are reformed characters just looking to make Britain a better place to live for anyone that’s not Muslim or an immigrant and that’s preferably white or agrees whites and non whites really shouldn’t have children together as it messes up the white race genetic purity.”
Just like the some other countries around the world south africa for one Robert Mugabe wants africa for the africans hardly anyone is botherd in the slightest about this however when it comes to Nick Griffin wanting Britain for the British everyone badgers Nick and any BNP member or supporter as a racist isnt Robert a racist too? Is HE also racist/BLACK supremacists/Nazi/fascist/anti-semitic?
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John Tyndall founder of the BNP, Jailed for six months for training neo-Nazis, Jailed after being caught with a gun and bullets, not exactly a nice bloke!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/jul/20/otherparties.thefarright
You can see the image of John Tyndall dressed like a Nazi in front of a Nazi Swastika and picture of Adolf Hitler at http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/the-real-bnp/the-BNP-in-their-own-words.php
There’s other copies of the image online, though I guess you’ve already made up your mind of this one, it’s a Photoshop image right.
I’m not that concerned at what the BNP members believe, of course some will be racist just like come on all the other parties will be racist. I’m concerned at the BNP candidates who want to be our MPs, MEPs and councillors. People like Nick Griffin who was convicted of distributing material likely to incite racial hatred.
This is the person you want as our Prime Minister, you must be a nutter to want a twisted person like him as our PM!
Nick Griffin denies the holocaust on TV, his own word:
And
Nick Griffin denied the Holocaust in issue 12 of a publication called “The Rune” and that issue led to Griffin’s conviction in 1998 of distributing material likely to incite racial hatred.
He was given a nine-month prison sentence suspended for two years.
During the trial (at Harrow Crown Court in 1998 27th April to 1st May) he said:
It’s a fact he denied the holocaust and one of the times is on video. So please don’t post total BS on my site that Nick Griffin is a stand up British guy, he’s an awful person who has no respect for the dead (or living for that matter).
Good news is the BNP are struggling to gain any mainstream support and will almost certainly not gain an MP at the general election. Worst thing the BNP could have done was try to get into the mainstream media (Question Time) as British people have seen what a bunch of racist, holocaust denying morons the BNP are and would never vote for them in great numbers. Previously the BNP at least had deniability factor, no one talked about them on TV so British voters didn’t really know what they stood for and would vote for them as a protest vote not realising they were voting for racist scumbags. Now I think they’ll switch their protest vote to a party like the Green party where the vote is still a protest, but it’s a safe protest.
David
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the holocaust did happen but it wasnot 6 million jews do the math
at the begining of ww2(1939) there was 7 million jews
then allegedly there was 6 million jews killed
after the end of ww2(1945) there were 5 million jews
7-6=5??????
not in my effin maths it dont
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“the holocaust did happen but it was not 6 million jews do the math”
Care to provide evidence for those numbers Jake?
http://www.holocaust-history.org/~rjg/deaths.shtml
The above article has references.
Small part of the article:
6 million appears to be a conservative estimate!!!
David
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BNP ARE RACIST END OF!!!
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I April 20th 1968 when Enoch Powell delivered his “Rivers of Blood” speech to a Conservative Association meeting in Birmingham people thought he was mad, called him “racist” he lost his job but he has been proved right, he said that this country would be more less taken over by foreigners, it’s all happening what he said would happen, we have Euro fanatic MPs, billions of pounds of tax payers money given away to third world countries, I wonder how much of Brown’s own money he donates, BNP get my vote.
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