I’m not a big football fan, I normally only watch events like the World Cup, still I’d hate to see the beautiful game of Football damaged by the BNP Immigration policy.
The BNP Immigration Policy states: “Stop all new immigration except for exceptional cases”
Unless Football players are “exceptional cases” this means British Football teams will no longer be able to employ foreign football players.
We have some really good football players in Britain, but if British football teams are only allowed to employ British born or foreign football players who have settled in Britain (and don’t take the generous repatriation payments to leave) won’t this put them at a distinct disadvantage over foreign football teams who can employ the best football players from around the world?
Imagine what Manchester United, Liverpool etc… would play like with only British born football players!
Also the BNP immigration policy would mean we wouldn’t be able to hire foreign born football managers and as has been shown in the recent past there’s some really good foreign managers. For example Fabio Capello (Italian born football manager) current England manager, will he have to give up his current job?
Just goes to show how poorly thought out the BNP Immigration policy is. Some may argue with this, but in the whole scheme of things, damaging British football wouldn’t be the end of the world, but lets expand this to look at the field of science. Again we have some of the best scientists in the world, but there are just as many great scientists born in other countries and it would be a travesty if our Universities and research institutes etc… couldn’t hire a great scientist just because he/she wasn’t born in Britain!
To Potential BNP Voters
We need a well thought out immigration policy, NOT stop immigration completely and forever!!! Looking through the political parties immigration policies (and I’m sure some will disagree with this assessment) I view them as follows:
BNP Immigration Policy : Way over the top, as my eldest son put it “The BNP way is the equivalent of using the A-bomb to take out a fly. Sure you got the fly, but you also destroyed everything else and irradiated the land.”
UKIP Immigration Policy : Stopping immigration for 5 years except for important workers. Still a bit on the harsh side, but at least it’s a realistic concept. We need skilled workers and at least UKIP understand this.
Labour/Conservative/Liberal Democrats Immigration Policy : The BNP supporters are going to like I’m combining them :-) There’s not great deal between them IMO, as public opinion is moving towards stronger controls on immigration the main three parties are adapting their immigration policies (slowly). I still see all three parties immigration policies as on the weak side which is why the British public are not happy and the BNP are benefiting from that unhappiness.
Yes, immigration is important, but lets not destroy one of our nations favourite sports that is the beautiful game of football.
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“We need a well thought out immigration policy”
For the time being, a very strict “exceptional cases only” policy seems more sensible to me. There are over 2m unemployed (excess workers) yet we are allowing more people into the country. Granted, this figure isn’t as large once you factor in immigration, but it still adds up. Question is this: if there is already large unemployment, why is the govt. still so keen on immigration? Don’t get me wrong, if there’s job shortages or plenty of room to accommodate people then by all means allow immigration.
The problem with UKIP’s policy is that it specifies an exact date to cut immigration. Why is this an issue? Allowing immigration may still be unwise after the five year period (or it may be fine to allow immigration before the five year period).
A more sensible policy would be to halt immigration for an unspecified time until the need (and ability to accommodate) for larger scale immigration arises again, and on the understanding that immigrants pledge loyalty to UK of GB and NI.
With regards to football, I couldn’t really care less about the game. However, football is big business and is a stimulus for the economy so I would imagine foreign footballers would be considered an “exceptional case” because they add to the country (albeit not in a “first-hand” sense). And if they weren’t considered an “exceptional case”? If this affected the country badly, the BNP (or another party, if they adopted a similar line) would be voted out of office * .
[*] This is assuming, of course, they got into power. Being realistic, the BNPs first goal would be to get one seat from one of their strongholds. Let’s face it, although it would be a jolly good kick in the bum for LibLabCon they are hardly going to have much power with just one MP. (Though one MP is not a waste as it’d serve as a nice reminder to the politicians who is ultimately in charge – the people).
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I’m not sure if your last couple of paragraphs should be read as “The BNP won’t win this election, so what their policies are don’t really matter, there’s other reasons for voting BNP”?
If not I’ve heard this argument before as an excuse for how poorly thought out the BNP’s policies are, so…
I’m sorry, but politicians are meant to be aiming to run our country, I don’t care which party they stand for, their policies should be realistic and well thought out and be able to withstand scrutiny from an eligible voter like myself** and anyone else reading them.
**I’m not that political, as mentioned before this website is my first step into politics and if I can easily tear big holes in BNP policies, with my limited political experience, they’ve got something wrong!
You can suggest football players might fall under the exceptions criteria, but why would they, why would foreign footballers be more important under a BNP government than doctors, nurses, dentists, plumbers, scientists, engineers, teachers…?
Like you I’m not that bothered about football (probably watch 3 games a year when nothing else on TV, not including World Cup matches) and so it wouldn’t have any impact on my life if Manchester United etc… could only hire British born people. However, I would be affected if they stopped doctors, nurses, dentists etc… entering the country to work and eventually settle as British citizens, do they fall under the BNP exceptions?
Surely a well thought out immigration policy would take this sort of thing into account from day one and not leave it under exceptional cases? Like with the UKIP immigration policy:
“The party says work permits should continue to be issued to companies requiring employees to work in the UK throughout this moratorium period.”
http://www.general-election-2010.co.uk/ukip-policies-immigration.html
Like you I’m not sure about the UKIP five-year moratorium on immigration policy, though for different reasons, I think the period is too long. I wouldn’t have an issue with a one or two year freeze on immigration whilst new legislation etc… is passed.
The BNP immigration policy is open ended and since the BNP pretty much blame everything wrong with Britain on immigration I don’t see them restarting immigration in the future. Seriously do you?
My reading of the BNP is they want to close our borders, remove as many non British people from Britain (especially Muslims) as possible, take back control of British land and businesses and become self sufficient in both manufacturing, energy production and farming. I assume the concept is we’ll be able to train British born people to be our doctors etc… and so won’t need immigration.
Unfortunately for the BNP policies, we live in the real world where we no longer control 3/4s of the worlds resources, we rely heavily on trade (we’d starve and freeze without it) and don’t have a highly skilled population to fill all skilled jobs.
To achieve what the BNP wants would take decades and in the meantime we’d need immigration to fill the gap (takes a decade to train a doctor including GCSE’s and A-Levels). A smart immigration policy would be to control immigration in a way that benefits Britain, we’d only let in skilled workers we NEED, whilst encouraging our young people to take on skills we need, so long term (a decade from now) we’d need less immigration (labour and the Conservatives have policies for this sort of thing).
Also don’t get me wrong I think we should be more self sufficient, for example it’s madness to have to rely on countries like Russia for our gas and Iraq for our oil, the sooner we develop renewable energy sources (which we HAVE to achieve by the middle of this century) the better!
David
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“I’m sorry, but politicians are meant to be aiming to run our country, I don’t care which party they stand for, their policies should be realistic and well thought out and be able to withstand scrutiny from an eligible voter like myself** and anyone else reading them.”
I think the point of what the BNP are trying to do is just get someone elected to the House by any way possible and to have more of a say on what they feel matters to the average British citizen. They might not be nice to certain people (which politicians are?) but they appeal to other certain people.
Can you imagine the sheer horror they would probably feel if every single one of their candidates got elected?? They wouldn’t know what to do with themselves!
Unfortunately a lot of people don’t read manifesto’s or understand or care how the policies would work. Unfortunately a fair number of people left the school of “what my dad always told me” and graduated from the University of “The Sun Newspaper”
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I can’t find fault in your arguments above Sarah, but it still doesn’t detract from the fact many BNP policies are a joke.
It should concern any potential BNP voter that whoever wrote the BNP policies hasn’t got a clue about how to run our country and aren’t even smart enough to write policy documents that make sense: note I’m not talking here about writing the best possible policies for the country, just that when read they make sense.
For example there is no sense in the BNP pulling all our soldiers out of wars, (I want our soldiers home as well BTW) stating up front we will not go into a war unless we have to, (which I agree with) BUT on the other hand increase our armed forces strength and all adults have to do military national service. So in the future we won’t be part of NATO type wars, but we’ll be increasing the size of our armed forces (the majority will have military training). If we aren’t going to have any more wars why do we need more soldiers, why does everyone need military training, what are they for and isn’t that a waste of tax payers money? Wouldn’t it be better to train people in useful skills so they can compete in the 21st century world economy, why waste money on military training if we don’t need it under a BNP government? Suggests the BNP are either incompetent or have ulterior motives: maybe world domination, they do talk a lot about a war with Islam, who knows!
The BNP and it’s supporters can argue it’s not important as they’ll never get their current policies passed, even if they did win loads of seats, (I think they’d be shocked if they got 10 MPs), but the truth is the BNP can’t even write a decent policy document that makes sense.
It’s not too much to ask that their policies add up. I suppose under the BNP the government would have bought Cadbury’s to keep it British. Where would that 11 billion come from?
It’s a BNP policy to buy back/acquire foreign owned British lands and businesses, but the reality is the government could never afford to pay for even a fraction of British businesses that are foreign owned (they’d have to steal them) and more importantly it would drive foreign investment away from our shores and that would be an economic disaster (would cost millions of jobs). Why do the BNP officials who wrote their policy documents not understand this? It suggests they are quite frankly stupid!
I have to agree with you it would be funny to see the BNP win all their seats, Nick Griffin as PM, he lacks the ability to run a country, he couldn’t even run a business successfully (he was declared bankrupt)!
David
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“I suppose under the BNP the government would have bought Cadbury’s to keep it British.”
The state can’t get involved so that wouldn’t happen regardless
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Well, if it is a choice of having
a) slightly less good football teams, or
b) having a happy cohesive society with less crime, no positive discrimination, no race relations industry funded by the taxpayer, a more effective police unhampered by fear of being called racist, an end to “no-go” areas, schools teaching British history again, not to mention an end to previously unheard of crimes such as gang rape and mugging….
I think I could do without the football, thank you very much!
Also the argument that we need to import highly skilled surgeons, footballers etc means we end up with millions of unskilled workers from the Third World.
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So Roger, you think that allowing everyone who completes National Service to have a Rifle and ammunition in their home will reduce the crime rate?
You think that anyone who refuses to complete National service should have their right to vote removed?
Because by voting BNP that’s what you are agreeing to.
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That’s a good point, imagine all those National Service guns on the streets of Britian! Lets see, millions of guns on the streets of Britain, but a BNP supporter expects:
What a load of rubbish, having more guns on the street would likely make the above problems worse, not better.
And since when are immigrants responsible for all muggings and gang rapes! We’ve had those problems forever.
David
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Personally I don’t agree with everyone being allowed to keep guns at home, but what we have now is guns being readily available to criminals, but the law-abiding homeowner being disarmed. That can’t be right.
If the criminals are disarmed then I don’t mind being unarmed. If some criminals have guns but the police and law and order system is effective, then..well..OK I don’t mind us not being allowed guns.
As for immigrants not being responsible for muggings and gang rapes I would say that mugging is a traditional West Indian crime, and that not too many people dispute that black youths are responsible for much (if not the overwhelming majority) of gun crime in the UK – the Met has even set up a special unit for this.
I found an article by Sorious Samura on gang rape: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/gang-rape-is-it-a-race-issue-1711381.html
Have a look at his Dispatches programme if you can find it on the net somewhere. It’s an eye opener.
(Bear in mind that as far as the official statistics on crime are concerned, “white” includes Middle Easterners)
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THE RIGHT TO BARE ARMS IS BRITISH NOT AMERICAN
YOU LET THEM CHANGE THE LAW, SO THEY CAN WALK ALLOVER US TRUE BRITTONS
YOU TALK ABOUT IT BUT YOU DONT KNOW A DAMN THING, IV SPENT ALOT OF TIME IN EASTERN EUROPE(NOT IN HOLIDAY RESORTS) AND ITS REALLY REALLY BAD
YOU DONT WANT IT HERE IN THE UK FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR KIDS
THIS LAND IS OURS BY RIGHT AS TRUE BRITTONS
SO UNITE AND GET BRIATAIN OUT OF EUROPE AND EUROPE OUT OF BRITAIN BEFORE ITS TOO LATE
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We have millions of unskilled and unmotivated BNP voters who could do better for britain by moving to the “third world”
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Grow up. This is the third world. Where have you been hiding ?
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this is ridiculous 1st off professional footballers are millionares so it would be fair to say they will be contributing a lot to the economy, secondly spain won euro 2008 with an all white spanish team with the exception of marcos senna who was a brazilian with a spanish passport and italy won the world cup in 2006 with a completely white italian squad, so to say the standard would decrease if immigrants dont enter is untrue, there are good white british kids who play football, just a lot of the time they get overlooked, and surely if we stop immigration of skilled workers doesnt that mean that actual white british kids will stand more of a chance of getting a job in this field because they might look to train in that field if they think they stand a chance of getting a career.
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I don’t know a great deal about football, but I do know the average footballer is not paid millions. It’s the minority like Rooney, Beckham, Ronaldo etc… that get the ridiculous sums of money to play a game. The vast majority are on far more modest pay packets.
Am I to read your comment correctly that you think the BNP immigration policy that would stop foreign players playing for British teams would be good for British born football players? The idea being British football teams will have no choice but to hire home grown talent?
You think that sort of protectionism would be good for the game of football and the country?
Have you considered if the BNP gained power and passed their immigration policy as is, other countries would stop playing football with British teams?
David
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Short answer, no they wouldn’t train cos eastenders is on and they need their degree in Media studies to stack shelves. It’s not an issue of immigration its lazy brits who cannot be bothered, BNP voters ruined this country by being so damn lazy, raise your kids right and the crime will disappear funny how areas with mostly white BNP voters have such high crime, surely this can’t be related?
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jimbob
true fact is i could study and do your job easy
but you have not got the stomach or balls to ever be able to do the job i was trained to do
one of the biggest problems this country has is big mouthed cowards hiding behind desks preaching they are something special
i know atleast my kids will write our BRAVE dad on my gravestone
where as yours will no doubt read here lies a PUSSY RIP
bnp for a chance to free this once great nation
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Max in case you haven’t noticed yet, I’m deleting many of your comments.
If you read the commenting policy you will have read
“I’m also going to delete any small comments that add nothing to the debates”
Silly little comments like
“communism doesn’t work
so being honest i’ll take freedom at any cost”
that are not worthy of debate are deleted. Remember this isn’t a forum where it doesn’t matter if low quality comments are added because the software creates another page (on a forum each page is limited to say 20 comments). With blog software (WordPress) the comments are threaded, each page allows just 10 threads (I had to set it really low), but each thread can potential stretch to about 100 comments, which means a page like this could have 1,000 comments!!! I can’t let little comments that add nothing to the debates to remain, I have to limit them to make the site work.
The comment of yours I’m responding to is very low quality (I considered deleting it), all you do is insult the previous commenter and add unverifiable information. For all we know you are a white unemployed skinhead with Nazi tattoos all over your body, but it would be wrong to make that assumption and stereotype you as a typical BNP supporter. Yet you make the assumption you could do Jimbob’s job without even knowing what he does (could be a brain surgeon for all you know) and that he is a coward. Why did you insult him like that?
I’m getting bored of having to read your comments and decide if I should keep them or not. If it was the odd low quality comment, that would be fine, we all create the odd one or two. Yours are 90% low quality, add some effort to your comments or I’ll take the easy root and delete them all.
Remember commenting on my site is a privilege not a right, so put some effort into your response or I’ll delete them all.
David
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good thats the amunition i wanted all copied to paste into a real room, proof you imigrant loving traitors to this country only print what you want read by the real public
by the way tapes of proof of slovakia flooding 500,000 tickets sent to bmp
i only hope we meet in person soon to show you i am black proud to be british unlike you fucking traitors
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Sheesh, another loony toon BNP supporter notices I don’t support the BNP and their far right wing fringe political ideas.
What a big upset that will be at the general election. A private website owner deletes comments on his privately owned site that’s not affiliated with any political party from BNP supporting numpties. Did I mention this sites owned by me, an individual, moi, AKA not a political party or political group.
Oh no, what have I done, I’ve only gone and handed the general election to the BNP, oh no, end of the world is nigh, the pod people are coming to get me, where is my BNP tin foil hat to protect me from the government reading my thoughts with their microwave oven machines.
Max, you might as well save your time, I’ll be deleting ALL of your comments from now on, they add nothing to the site. I’ve wasted enough time on BNP idiots like you already since creating this site.
Don’t forget to take a screenshot of this comment, that’s bound to win the BNP the general election.
ROFLOL
David
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No interest in football. It was the beautiful game – it is no longer. Too much money involved. Everything now is celebrity. The real heroes are unsung – good lads (and lasses) who risk their lives defusing bombs etc. in a hellhole that they were despatched to by a government that wants to break the good things about this country. I hate ideology. I do vote BNP despite their leader not being too coherent (due to be changed I reckon) – its the message that matters. Immigrating an amorphous mass of people who hate us ”long term residents” and show it by wearing the burka etc. and refuse to learn English (or Welsh) is the action of a treasonable government. Members of which also are guilty of robbing their fellow citizens. The punishment for which should be shooting. I mean it.
I remember the country poorer but with far better
community relations. Every step this government takes degrades this country. I believe in worldwide genetic diversity but not all stuck on one small island. Rainbow nation = rainbow hellhole.
Next to these truly important issues, do you really think I care about a ball game?????
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Did I read your comment correctly that you think the BNP will get rid of Nick Griffin soon?
Come to think of it Nick Griffin has pretty much handed the seats they stand a chance on to other parties as they have no money to campaign now. Maybe when he looses the relevant seats (those few seats they have a chance on) as he’s spent all the BNP’s money on stupid court cases he couldn’t possibly win and so couldn’t afford to campaign at root level (how the BNP gains support, knocking on doors and posting hate mongering literature) the members will kick him out!
Nick Griffin needs to learn a very simple and basic political lesson.
Fight the political battles you can win.
I bet non BNP candidates in the BNP strong areas can’t believe how stupid the BNP’s been recently with squandering it’s limited resources just before an election. Then again good old Nick did have to declare bankruptcy when his business failed in the 90s, so he doesn’t have a good track record when it comes to managing money.
David
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Sweet Jesus (he was of middle eastern descent by the way, you may need to remind yourselves)where do you BNP voters learn this crap? The local pub? Have any of you ever talked to anyone not of your own (limited, thankfully) gene pool, it’s a shame in an age of scientific advancement we can’t breed out the idiot gene.
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I’d love to meet you in a pub, ranting about BNP.People like you have no balls just sit behind your screen slagging everyone else off.Unless you are not old enough to get in a pub.
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“I’d love to meet you in a pub, ranting about BNP.”
Why, what would you do to Jimbob if you heard him talking about the BNP that way?
Thinly veiled threats are pathetic and shows you don’t have the skills to win an argument with reasoned debate.
Tell us what’s so great about the BNP immigration policy when we’d be loosing thousands of skilled workers (BNP would kick them all out) that we need because British people aren’t training for the right jobs?
I note not one BNP supporter has been able to argue against the premise of my “BNP Immigration Policy Would Damage the Game of Football” article. The BNP would damage the game of football just like they’d damage every British industry that uses skilled immigrant workers.
David
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Hi
This Country has too many people who wear rose tinted glasses as well as Blinkers when it comes to immigration and Ethnics. Why??? Because the Human Rights, Civil Liberties and the Race Card rules over this land which is due to Weak Governments! Like It Or Not, The BNP is the only salvation we have for our children and our children’s children! We need to vote for the BNP in order to bring back British Culture and British Values including our religion. I go to church every Sunday, I also go to my Local Pub too. We should bring back the Street Parties which each of our villages used to hold in the Spring and Summer Time, get to know your Neighbours and bring love in to your Neighbourhoods. I love my Country and the British people who live here in peace. Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish all live here and don’t want to change our Country, our values or our Laws, why should we be dictated to by Islamic people? Islam is a Trojan Horse which is sleeping at the moment , Muslims are breading out of control, most popular British name???? Mohamed!!!! 7/7 was just a small kick in its sleep! It will take over this land if we don’t vote BNP. Time is running out!
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Jon,
You are in serious need of taking off your own rose tinted glasses, Street Parties? get real man the last time that happened was in the 70’s.
As for religion less than 15% of British people say they are religious in any way, so you think we need to force 85% of British people to become Christian?
And you are just another standard BNP supporter is all the fault of the muslims, come on man wake up open your eyes and look around you.
Are there really terrorists in every street? are bombs going off every five minutes? are the muslims making you convert to their religion? do they come knocking your door every week like the bloody jovo’s that come banging my door every Sunday despite me telling them every week I can’t be his witness as I never saw the accident.
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The very truth of Islam
I hope we will never see this on our streets!!!!
BNP the only hope in May 2010
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www.maaref-foundation.com
Instructions were given to parade the captives through the market and main streets of … Have none of you here heard … to cane the lips of the severed head …
* www.maaref-foundation.com/english/library/pro_ahl/imam03_husain/the_hidden_truth/33.htm
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Islam In Action
The severed heads were tied up in rugs … cut him to pieces and paraded his remains through the streets on … was left in a Calcutta street. And this happened in the 1940’s. Islam has …
* www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/803427/posts
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Six Lessons on Islam: Chapter 6
… The world is without a spiritual Head, and none hath … rode their horses over his body and severed his head and … decapitated Me, and, carrying aloft My head from land to land paraded …
* www.bahai-library.com/books/lessons.islam/6.html
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Most popular British name is not mohammed, it doesn’t even appear top of the polls. And Christianity is just as bad as Islam, just ask the Pope!!!
You’re basically in favour of replacing one sh1tty outmoded-religion in favour of another. Since when was politics about religion? I hate these do-gooders who hide behind the mask of the faith in pretence they are self-righteous. You do realise you talk to an invisible man on the clouds and he is in essence the same as Yahweh and Allah. People have committed more sins in history behind their mask of Christianity than most other religions i.e. the crusades, the inquisition, child abuse etc etc, not forgetting the failure to see that men and women should be treated equally. Isn’t that what the bible teaches. Don’t be so f&&king petty
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Jimbob, you are so out of touch.
This is an extract from a News Article:-
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By Rebecca Lefort and Ben Leapman
Published: 5:07PM BST 15 Sep 2009
The Islamic name overtook traditional choices like Jack, Thomas and Daniel to become the number one name in the West Midlands, Yorkshire, Leicestershire, West Midlands, the Humber, and the North West, as well as in the capital, in 2008.
The figures emerged in a detailed regional breakdown of figures published last week by the Office for National Statistics (ONS).
It is the first time that the Muslim name has been shown to the top choice for parents in any part of the UK. In previous years no regional figures were disclosed, only nationwide totals.
When various spellings of the Islamic prophet are added together – including Muhammad, Mohammad, Mohamed and Muhammed – the name is now more than twice as popular in London as the capital’s second-ranked boys name, Daniel. There were 1,828 baby boys given the name Mohammed, including varients, in 2008, compared with only 844 who were called Daniel.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/6194354/Mohammed-is-most-popular-name-for-baby-boys-in-London.html
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Jon, don’t forget to add a link to the full article you’ve quoted so others can read the full thing, see how reliable the source is etc…
I’ve added the link for you above.
David
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Thanks David
Jon
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I see that Jimbob has not come back to me with a reply re Mohamed being the most popular name for a Boy in the UK. May be he is still looking for a Count? Or may be he is out for the count???????
Jon
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