Posted on November 18th, 2009 in
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Political groups in the UK (through out Europe) are concerned at what they see as the spread of the Islam/Muslim faith, the so called Islamification of Britain/Europe/America et al. The concern is the Islam/Muslim faith will replace the current main faiths (Christian, Catholic etc…) and way of life and even laws in those countries.
Lets have a poll.
Islamification of Britain Poll
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I’m looking for some suggestions of options to add so we have a range of opinions. Something along the lines of:
Yes, we should remove ALL Muslims from Britain.
Yes, we should stop Muslim Immigration into Britain.
No, Islam is a Peaceful Religion and not a Threat.
No, Islam is a Peaceful Religion, but Islamic Extremists are a Threat.
Looking for suggestions and I’ll add those that cover a range of opinions, the above ones seem inadequate to cover the full range of opinion.
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To all those that support the BNP. Don’t waste your time trying to debate anything on here. The site goes under the guise of discussing politics yet states from the start that it is not pro BNP. So much for free thought and the democratic right to vote for who you like then! The site is obviously run by people who have their own agenda; a level playing field doesn’t seem to be amongst them. If it was then why mention anything about not being pro BNP?
The likes of VoteNo ToBNP are naive to say the least. Then again how many Tory voters actually choose to experience multiculturalism by actually living within the very heart of it? Some of us have no choice. How easy it is to spout the usual platitudes about neo-Nazism, etc. Well, better to demonise people than actually debate with them, or acknowledge them as normal human beings with concerns over the open door policy of immigration and what it means for their future in their own land. Of course the right-on PC types that inhabit this site have an attitude akin to that of Nero fiddling while Rome burns. Still, they’re the very ones who are stoking up the fire – and proud the idiots are of it.
If only all the ills of immigration could come to pass and only effect the idiots who support it then I would welcome their suffering. As it is, it is the rest of us poor sods who have to bear the brunt of it. When Enoch Powell stated that we were busily building up our own funeral pyre he cannot have imagined how right he was – or how stupid some people are for being blind to it.
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Islam and the Islamification of Britain Discussion and Poll
Mike,
Happy new year.
How right you are. I stopped commenting for those very reasons.
We have uninvited guests, and they refuse to leave.
If they were in my own house I would have the legal right to eject them.
The detractors and critics of the BNP would not welcome univited guests into their own homes, I doubt it anyway. They would not accept a family of Islamic immigrants taking over their houshold and refusing to leave, claiming it as their own.
So why should we accept them taking over our neighbourhood, our village, our towns and streets, our shops and schools and hospitals??
We did not invite them in.
If the Labour and Tory supporters want them here, they should have them live in their own homes, not displace us from ours.
It is nothing to do with racism, or fascism, it is about our homes, our neighbourhoods, our land.
We want our country back.
Vote BNP.
PS – Happy new year to all BNP supporters, and that is my last word on this stupid timewasting web site.
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Islam and the Islamification of Britain Discussion and Poll
Mike, whilst agreeing with you on the bias by the sites owner & moderator, who admits being anti BNP & pro labour despite the proven criminality of that party, we have to continue to post sensibly, ignoring uaf provocateurs like “vntbnp” whose so called arguments are disproved time after time!
Otherwise the REAL OBJECTIVES of the BNP will continue to be hidden from any open minded person coming on to this site! Which is exactly what “vntbnp” & his ilk want!! It just proves how worried lib/lab/con are to desperately try to drown out the worries of the AVERAGE BRITISH VOTER with continual lies & smears! Yet they do NOTHING to prevent the slide of OUR country into chaos, contiuing to flood in more immigrants, pander to the muslims, give more power to the unelected bureacrats of the EU, continue to send our inadequately supplied troops to be killed in an unwinnable war, bail out greedy, negligent bankers and pour billions of pounds into the pockets of corrupt politicians in the overpopulated third world!!
Incidentally, it would appear that the Americans are blaming US for the latest muslim bomber, saying he was radicalised here and that our govt & the university he studied at did nothing to prevent it! NO SURPRISE THERE THEN! see http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6913572/americans-blame-britain-for-rise-of-islamic-extremism.html
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Islam and the Islamification of Britain Discussion and Poll
No one institution can be held intirely responsible for the actions of an individual.
People can be one thing one day and something completely different the next.
One day this guy is studying in Britain – he may have heard a few harsh words towards him in the way of racism – brushed it off. The next day he starts hearing more about the extremist views of other Muslims – he’s feeling hurt about the words he originally brushed off – it SEEMS to make sense – he buys into it. He’s brainwashed & or bombarded with confirmations of what he’s been told due to hightened awareness to what he’s been told. And one day he decides to go and do something radical.
SOUNDS FAMILIAR: One day this white person’s studying in Britain – he may have heard a little on the news about extremist Muslims attack on London’s tubes – brushed it off. The next day he starts hearing some views that the BNP are presenting – he’s feeling hurt, remembering the extremist Muslim’s attack – it SEEMS to make sense – he buys into it. He’s bombarded by confirmations of what he’s been told due to hightened awareness to what he’s been told. And one day he goes and votes for the BNP who, thanks to his vote, can now ethincally cleanse the UK.
Its the same old same old: it SEEMS to make sense in ones HEIGHTENED SENSE OF AWARENESS TO WHAT ONE’S BEEN TOLD & a few exposures but in ALL REALITY the boy who committed the radical act lacked knowledge of the views of the majority, becomes narrow minded & therefore is unable to access contrary evidence so loses contact with reality and is therefore unable to properly assess the possible consequences of his actions.
The white person lacked the knowledge of the views of the majority, becomes narrow minded & therefore is unable access to evidence to the contrary and so loses contact with reality and is also unable to properly assess the consequences of his or her actions.
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Islam and the Islamification of Britain Discussion and Poll
Just because one wants to VoteNo on the BNP does not mean they automatically support the ‘ills of immigration’.
It more likely means that they don’t support more of the extremist views that BNP stand for or they are fearful of the open ended comments that the BNP make about the policies they would put in place once in power.
Such as the returning Britain to the % of white people present in Britain in 1948.
This would mean turfing millions out of their homes, millions who may have lived here for generations and who may not have any ties to the countries their ancestors came from. Imagine the BNP found out that you have a great great great great Grandfather who had an Iranian mistress who spawned your great great great grandfather and so you had to go and live in Iran just because the BNP think the colour of ones skin directly causes them to rape, kill, and have aids (I quote the BNP).
I think the UK should be very cautious of who is allowed into the UK and they seem to have an ‘open door’ policy that needs to be changed but the above is not the answer.
THAT is why I would voteNO to the BNP and then lobby for the change of policy.
We can lobby you know…it would be foolish to succumb to those who seem to be offering an easy solution that washes the publics hands of any effort. And the BNP offers a simple solution but as we all know simple solutions are never that simple.
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Islam and the Islamification of Britain Discussion and Poll
Here are some vids people might like to view regarding the threat that Islamism is to Britain:
Anyone who does not think Islam is a threat to Britain (and Europe) needs to wake up and soon…
VOTE BNP 2010
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Islam and the Islamification of Britain Discussion and Poll
I love watching those you-tube videos that show Islamic extremists protesting, they make me chuckle!! Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed a plethera of ‘Nike’ trainers dangling below those black gowns…no Primark rubbish for those lads eh?
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The latest from the “peace loving” muslims!! Armed police called to the home of a returning BRITISH soldier in Glasgow in response to threats to his & his families lives!! See :- www.telegraph.co.uk/newstopics:politics/defence/6923829/al-quaeda-target-british-soldiers-returning-from-afghanistan.html
Its a shame they dont target one of the useless politicians who are responsible for sending our boys there!!
Such a peace loving bunch of scum!!
Another reason I’m voting for BNP
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404 Error page not found, did a quick search of the Telegraph site couldn’t find the article
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Found it: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/6923829/Al-Qaeda-target-British-soldiers-returning-from-Afghanistan.html
Disgusting is all I can say to that, the police and security services should be rounding these people up and arresting them.
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Islam and the Islamification of Britain Discussion and Poll
For all those who think there is not a problem with “islamification” in Britain just look at the following statistics from the 2001 census, bearing in mind these figures only count LEGAL immigrants:- 8.4% of LONDON’S population was MUSLIM, with tower hamlets & newham being 36% & 24% respectively, the figure is now estimated to be approaching 15% & bear in mind this does not include ILLEGALS which will send that % MUCH HIGHER. There are over 100 mosques in london, with more planned!! There are similar figures for most of the other major towns & cities throughout Britain!!
How many more do we need? This governments CRIMINAL conspiracy to flood Britain with these people MUST BE STOPPED, we cannot go on being apathetic & complacent any more, the indiginous Briton MUST VOTE BNP to stop this lunacy!! No other party is prepared to address this, only the BNP!! So for your countries sake WAKE UP & act!
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Islam and the Islamification of Britain Discussion and Poll
Here is a report that differs from your figures K Williams produced by the ONS for the GLA (of which you have a BNP member on)
This report is based on the 2001 Census and shows projections to 2031
http://www.london.gov.uk/gla/publications/factsandfigures/DMAG-briefing2009-08-low-ethnic-group-pop.pdf
So not always advisable to take the BNP at their word without looking for other sources of information.
It was produced in 2008 so also far more recent data than 2001.
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Once again “vntbnp” , do you say that the 2001 census FIGURES ARE FALSE, to bolster your pathetic attempt to say that the islamification of our country is NOT TRUE!
Get out, look around, especially in the “enriched” areas of our towns & cities and tell me there is not a problem! Your failure to face the truth makes you complicit in the demise of our once great country!
That is why I say ONLY THE BNP WILL STAND AGAINST THIS!
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“Once again “vntbnp” , do you say that the 2001 census FIGURES ARE FALSE, to bolster your pathetic attempt to say that the islamification of our country is NOT TRUE!”
Did you NOT read the post, the report I showed you was produced by the ONS for the GLA (of which Richard Barnbrook one of your own) is a part based on the 2001 figures with projections un till 2031, so NOT my figures read the actual report.
What I suggested was you read it and not trust everything the BNP tells you when another report shows the figures they are quoting are not exactly correct.
So again NOT my figures ONS and GLA figures, so are you suggesting that Richard Barnbrook who is a GLA member is lieing when that report has gone out from the GLA of which he is a part?
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“Your failure to face the truth makes you complicit in the demise of our once great country!”
More standardised rubbish from a BNP supporter, jeez I would have thought you could come up with better, it just goes to show that the average BNP supporter doesn’t want to accept any other point of view (or reports) other than the ones the BNP put out, so maybe your not such a beliver in democracy after all as you don’t want to accept any other views outside the BNP.
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dont be ridiculous – the UK has gone to rubbish because of its greed and want to exploit people. Where exactly do you think we should go back to?
Time doesn’t move back, it moves forward.
You need to wake up and see the BNP for what they are. hate mongerers.
I am not saying that we do not need to sort out our own immigration problems.
The fact is the British fought against Hitler and the Nazi’s, so why would you disgrace these people in their final days by voting for someone who wants the same for Britain (the UK)?
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The church fights back against Islamification
08 Jan 2010
“We have had to wait decades for this moment, but it has finally happened. A leading British clergyman has said something sensible about immigration. ”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/6949554/The-church-fights-back-against-Islamification.html
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Islam and the Islamification of Britain Discussion and Poll
Castlepoint MP Bob Spink has led a request in Parliament for a debate on the Sharia law issue and radical Islamic groups and banning them from England. He must be supported for his resolution EDM288 as he needs at least 100 other MP’s to sign this so it can be debated in Parliament. Please email your MP’s to support the EDM288 resolution
Link to EDM=
http://www.edms.org.uk/edms/2009-2010/288.htm
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That’s an interesting site you’ve linked to, I’ve been able to setup a section under http://www.general-election-2010.co.uk/uk-party-political-news/politics/parliament-early-day-motions to list recent and popular early day motions.
The link is to a separate WordPress installation under this domain http://www.general-election-2010.co.uk/uk-party-political-news/ to keep this part of the site clean: if I posted all 6 main political parties news and early day motions the unique articles and party policies here would be swamped in a week or so!
I should be able to list individual MPs early day motions as well.
David
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Here is another EDM you may be interested in David,
http://www.edms.org.uk/edms/2009-2010/532.htm
Although I can see these filth being banned without this going through.
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Go and live in Saudi Arabia for a while you will see the double standards. I have personally witnessed western women beaten by the matawa because they have not covered their heads. Any freedom of speach that is against islam, if serious enough to cause concern to the mufti’s is dealt by a fatwa. Are they going to have public executions here in the UK. Surely no one has the right to take anothers life no matter what the circumstances.
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Islam and the Islamification of Britain Discussion and Poll
Ye, these are slowly taking over our country anybody who cant see that is blind or doesnt live in the real world, if these muslims actually wnated to integrate eventually then they wouldnt have built all these mosques everywhere, because they would be unneccessary because surely they would be converting to christianity, strange how people can be so blind at what these people are doing, the chinese have been in the uk longer than these muslims, do you remember any riots etc between chinese an british natives, didnt think so, at the end of the day if they dont like it, they should just leave, which is unfortunately what most indigeonous people have done now, left to places like Spain, Australia Canada etc because of that joke of a government thats currently in power, anyway if anybody has any pride in the UK then they’d vote BNP but most people seem ashamed to be British these days, and to those, they should leave and go and live in Pakistan and Bangladesh with their friends as thats clearly how they like things
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I agree with you up until the vote BNP thing.
I completely agree that they should integrate but the answer is not mass ethnic cleansing.
What of people who happen to have a different colour of skin and or have non-extremist Muslim views and contribute and respect and live the British lifestyle. People who are of a different colour skin or are Muslim and have lived in Britain all their lives who will be deported to ‘Muslim’ countries which they may not have even visited or know much about because the BNP wants to reset Britain to 1948. (Indirect quote)
What about them?
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