Also see the BNP Manifesto 2010.
The British National Party (BNP) is a far-right political party with strong racist and fascist roots. Formed as a splinter group from the racist/fascist National Front by John Tyndall in 1982. Until 2009, when the BNP was challenged in the courts on grounds of racial discrimination, it restricted membership to only people of “Caucasian origin”. The BNP under Nick Griffin wasted 10s of thousands of pounds of their members fees on fighting their illegal whites only membership policy through the courts.
The BNP seeks to restore the overwhelmingly white ethnicity of Britain (what they call the indigenous population) that existed prior to 1948 through legal means, including “firm but voluntary and very expensive incentives for immigrants and their descendants to return home”: this policy would cost British tax payers billions and result in a shortage of trained workers. And the repeal of anti-discrimination legislation whilst adding more discriminating legislation to favour the “indigenous population”. It believes that there are significant differences between races. The party is ostracised by mainstream political parties in the UK for it’s racist and fascist ideologies.
In 2005, the last UK general election, the party received 0.7% of the popular vote but had no candidates elected to Parliament (currently it has never had an MP). In the 2006 English local elections the party doubled its number of seats in England. The BNP finished fifth in the 2008 London mayoral election with 5.2% of the popular vote and secured one of the London Assembly’s 25 seats. They won their first county council seats in 2009 together with two seats in the European Parliament. The party’s media profile has increased under its current leader Nick Griffin, a former national organiser of the racist National Front and failed business owner (has been declared bankrupt).
Despite a hard British recession, the British National Party have not fared well in recent by-elections in recent months, loosing their deposit each time. Indications are the BNP will not make the break through into mainstream politics in 2010 general election as they hope.
All eligible British voters should be aware if the BNP ever gained power, millions of law abiding British voters would loose the right to vote under the BNP’s National Service policy where ALL Britain’s over the age of 18 are required to serve a period of military service or LOOSE the right to vote! You MUST serve in the military to earn the right to vote under a BNP government, though you’d also gain the option to legally own an assault rifle as well!
For information about the BNP’s National Service commitment see the BNP General Election Manifesto 2005 (as of March 2010 there isn’t a BNP General Election Manifesto 2010).
BNP Leader Nick Griffin MEP
The current BNP leader Nick Griffin, (along with Paul Ballard) has been convicted in a British court of law (Harrow Crown Court: 27th April to 1st May 1998) for violating section 19 of the Public Order Act 1986, relating to incitement to racial hatred for his editorship of issue 12 of The Rune, published in 1996. Nick Griffin received a 9 month sentence, suspended for 2 years for the crime of inciting racial hatred.
During the trial he was accused of denying the holocaust and said:
I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated and turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the Earth was flat … I have reached the conclusion that the ‘extermination’ tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch-hysteria.
Nick Griffin confirmed he was a holocaust denier during the TV program (the Cook Report).
Nick Griffin, Cook Report, 1997
Closest Nick Griffin has come to changing his holocaust denying view was during question time in late 2009. His current views on the holocaust was not very clear. Does he believe millions of innocent Jewish people were murdered in Nazi death camps like Auschwitz?
Nick Griffin – Holocaust denial on Question Time, 2009
British National Party Conspiracy Theories
The BNP as a party believe in a multitude of political conspiracy theories from the absurd idea of a New World Order Conspiracy Theories including Common Purpose Conspiracy Theory through to Peak Oil Conspiracy Theories and Global Warming/Climate Change is a Hoax!!
The BNP also believe the three main political parties, Labour, Conservative and Liberal Democrats are in league together (one big political conspiracy) to maintain the status quo (keep the BNP out of power).
UKIP is the Eurosceptic Conservative front, Green Party is the Green front for the Labour Party and the Welsh Plaid Cymru Party is fake (I assume they mean it’s just the Tories under another name in Wales!).
The British National Party also believe the Labour Party allow in an uncontrolled number of immigrants to boost the Labour Party support: according to the BNP all immigrants vote Labour!
Based on:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party
BNP Policy Debate
Also see BNP Policies Debate for discussion on specific BNP Policies or use the direct policy links below. For a British National Party discussion not covered below feel free to create your own forum topic at British National Party Forum.
BNP Agriculture Policy
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BNP Foreign Aid Policy
BNP Health Policy
BNP Housing and Welfare Policy
BNP Immigration Policy
BNP Northern Ireland Policy
BNP Pensioners Policy
BNP Transport Policy
Also see Vote NO To The BNP in 2010 for information on the British National Party.
Please use the comment form below to describe why you will or will not be voting BNP at the 2010 General Election.
1543 responses to Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
How do the women who support the BNP or the men for that matter feel about the following BNP Policies from the 2007 Mini manifesto:
BNP Policies Against Women:
The BNP 2007 Mini Manifesto states the following as policy:
1. Implement a regressive taxation system that will re-establish women as dependents of their husbands.
2. Repeal protection of witnesses in rape cases and reform family law to benefit men.
3. Remove the right to choose to have an abortion.
Do you feel setting back womens rights is a good thing? can you really support a party that is willing to treat women as 2nd class citizens making them dependent on men?
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
Whoever wrote this crap needs to go back home and do his homework and present an opinion in an,UNBIASED WAY,idiots like you are still tryimg to divert support away from the BNP using the words racist and fascist,this is old hat and very boring,…BNP are realists not racists;racist definition;someone who thinks their race is superior to others,ie hitler,or another defination their ideaology is superior; ie communism,most of the Labour cabinet,and baroso of the EU are communists,what do you think has been happening in this country since the mid 60′s or have you been asleep,another defination of racism is thinking ones religion is superior to others.Islam is the biggest threat to europe since ww2.
Only one party stands up for the people of britain,who are patriotic and have the backbone to get out of the EU, stop wasting money on foreign aid,and restart real british industry.
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
I wrote the above Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election article.
It is based on the BNP Wikipedia entry with additions from the BNP manifestos and policy pages. I’m confident it’s an accurate article.
If you’d like to point out what parts of the article aren’t true, I’d be happy to debate those points with you.
For example it’s a fact the BNP is a “far-right political party” that was “Formed as a splinter group from the racist/fascist National Front by John Tyndall in 1982″ which gives the BNP “strong racist and fascist roots”. That’s all true, right?
Is it not true the BNP believe in a lot of conspiracy theories?
Or under a BNP government British voters would loose their right to vote if they refused to do military national service?
Or maybe you disagree that “The BNP under Nick Griffin wasted 10s of thousands of pounds of their members fees on fighting their illegal whites only membership policy through the courts”?
Please, point out what I got wrong?
Please supply facts (references would be nice), not just because you said so!
David
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
In answer to.. Please, point out what I got wrong? Firstly using wikapedia as a reference,!!!! contact your local BNP representative and talk to him/her and attend their meetings then I will debate with you on a level playing field.To answer one point you raised “mistake”(The BNP under Nick Griffin wasted 10s of thousands of pounds of their members fees on fighting their illegal whites only membership policy through the courts”?)The elite parties have no real opposition except the BNP, the 3 main parties all are in cohorts together.Labours quango of ECHR led by the overpaid Trevor Phillips are out to destroy the BNP by dragging the BNP through the court system,your inference that the members have “wasted their money is totally incorrect,the opposite is true,the ECHR have wasted millions of the TAXPAYERS money on trying to bankrupt a legal political party before a general election and when the BNP popularity is rising why did they choose now when they had 23 years in which to do so ,BNP base their policies on truth,knowledge and patriotism to the British people. I think everyone in this country would like to see a balance restored and that can only be achieved by having an effective opposition to the lefties/communists/new conservatives/ who have ruined our country over the last 40+years.
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
BNP Supporters couldn’t form a valid argument to save their life. Is that the best argument you can come up with, Wikipedia isn’t 100% reliable source of information, seriously???
Note the article was BASED on the BNP Wikipedia entry, not a copy of the BNP Wikipedia entry. I also confirmed what I wrote from places like BNP manifestos.
Please, feel free to point out what I got wrong? I’m quite happy to change things if I made an error in my research (prove me wrong).
BTW your argument I can’t debate about the BNP without first “contact your local BNP representative and talk to him/her and attend their meetings”. Well dumb argument (nothing new there from a BNP supporter) by the same argument you can’t discuss “lefties/communists/new conservatives/” as you haven’t met them all.
More double standards, the BNP supporter can discuss anything he/she wants about politics, but I can’t discuss the BNP without first jumping through a few retarded BNP hoops to qualify my arguments with drivel from a local BNP representative first.
Would discussing BNP policies with people like Michael Barnbrook (BNP candidate) and Roger Phillips (Wales BNP Organiser) count? Neither of them did a particularly good job arguing for the BNP cause in the comments on my site. Michael Barnbrook for example refused to discuss the BNP policy of military national service or loose your right to vote. Notice you won’t discuss it either, why is that, do you not want to have to own a gun and do military service to keep your vote?
At least from your last comment you confirm the BNP think pretty much everything is a conspiracy theory.
Regarding BNP members money wasted on court cases the BNP couldn’t possibly win, which is great as it means the BNP have no money to campaign at the general election.
The BNP membership policy of white’s only membership is illegal in this country.
That’s a fact (care to argue that fact?).
They didn’t have a cat in hells chance of winning that court case (which is why they lost) and so they wasted their members money fighting a case they could not win.
Not only that they showed that deep down the BNP have not changed, we live in a multicultural Britain, not pre 1950′s white Britain. The BNP now say they are no longer against hard working black British people, but fought in the court to deny them entry into the BNP as members. Why?
Add to this the money wasted not following the courts directions, something like £12,000 was wasted in one day because the BNP didn’t have the white’s only membership policy changed before the end of February 2010 and so the court had to give them more time which meant the BNP had to pay court costs.
£12,000 would be 24 BNP candidates deposit paid. On the BNP site under news they publish BNP fund raising events as awesome when they raise a few hundred quid. They could have had 24 more candidates at the next general election had the BNP organised a simple members vote a few weeks earlier than they did (they had months to organise it). I bet with the money they wasted on that one court case the BNP could have fielded another 100+ candidates at the general election instead of the 200 candidates they said thy will filed (there are 650 seats, the BNP will apparently contest only 200).
To Vote No To BNP (our resident BNP expert who I’m sure will read this :-)) do you know roughly how much the BNP wasted in total on that one court case?
I can not get over how politically and financially incompetent they are, it’s hilarious. The BNP do more damage to their own cause than every single UAF activist put together.
I look forward to Ys To BNP proving me wrong and arguing what parts of my article is not accurate/truthful. I won’t hold my breath though :-)
David
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
David your arguments are flawed beyond reasoned debate,I can’t be bothered to carry on talking to a leftie who has nothing better to do than destroy Britain,and kick peolpe below the belt you are probably one of cameroons UAF so there is no point in talking to you
I spend my time talking to people who are interested in a better britain by voting BNP and compared with a year ago the elitist twits really do have something to fear.So get out more,think outside the box and get a life and think what will britain will be like in 20 years time
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
No worries Ys To BNP I understand you don’t have the skills to debate with me. It’s what I’ve come to expect from the average BNP supporter.
If you change your mind feel free to pick a political subject and say your bit.
Anyone seriously considering voting BNP, just note when the serious BNP supporters are offered the chance of reasoned debate on a forum thousands of people read every day they run and hide like scared little children who have been caught out telling porkies.
Quite pathetic really.
Could you imagine people like this trying to fight your corner at even local level, they crumble under minimum pressure.
Michael Barnbrook for example who is a BNP candidate (spoke to him via the comments here, appears to be a nice old man) and supposedly the BNP’s big sleaze buster (big important figure in the BNP regarding MP expenses) complained I was tiring him out by asking him to participate in debate here (no one forced him to comment here).
http://www.general-election-2010.co.uk/reasons-to-vote-british-national-party-bnp-2010-general-election.html/comment-page-27#comment-3780
Just like Ys To BNP, Michael Barnbrook just wouldn’t debate about anything really, take a read of his response to being asked about military national service and loosing the right to vote.
http://www.general-election-2010.co.uk/reasons-to-vote-british-national-party-bnp-2010-general-election.html/comment-page-27#comment-3771
Pretty much similar to what you are saying Ys To BNP. You both refuse to debate. Why is that?
I’m not that into politics either, (check my very early comments from 6 months ago, I didn’t have a clue) I own about 100 web sites and this is my very first one about politics (have to admit I’m enjoying it).
I’m not some seasoned political commentator or anything who can easily wipe the floor with an unprepared politician, the likes of David Cameron, Gordon Brown, Nick Clegg etc… would wipe the floor with me in debate and I know it.
I’m just like the vast majority of middle Britain who have enough interest in politics to vote every time and care enough to get involved a little bit through this website (I’m not a member of any political groups for example).
To deal with the BNP supporters constantly commenting on my site I’ve had to learn a lot about the BNP over the last 6 months or so. Before that didn’t care to know anything beyond what I got from the media about the BNP (which is mostly true).
David
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
david i do have the skills but i can’t be bothered to waste them on you,you don’t have any skills,you are probably unemployed,sucking off the state,and get a hard on slagging off the BNP,sad really,you are not in power so what’s the point in talking to you,i hope that sounds racist,one serious question though which i would like to answer honestly is;what has the BNP done to you to make you hate them so much,
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
If you don’t plan to engage in reasoned debate stop posting comments on a politics site that’s here for reasoned debate.
Typical BNP supporter stupidity.
Just admit it, you can’t prove any of my arguments against the BNP as wrong.
When you learn anything beyond the classic BNP party line of it’s all the immigrants fault and everything is a big conspiracy, talk to me then.
Oh and had you read a bit more of my site you’d know I’m self employed, not unemployed like your average BNP supporter who can’t form a valid argument or keep down a job.
Speaking of jobs. Watched Newsnight the other night and there was a business owner from Lincolnshire on talking about why he employs foreign unskilled workers when there’s more than enough British born workers theoretically available to do the work.
The issues were.
1. The foreign workers who get off their back sides and travel hundreds of miles to work here are hard working. There are lazy people in places like Poland for example, but the lazy ones aren’t exactly going to travel all the way here to work picking vegetables all day for piece rates, just like lazy British people don’t travel abroad to find a job.
2. British workers aren’t willing to do that type of hard manual work for low wages. I disagree with this point, but then it’s not may argument it’s the Lincolnshire business owners argument. The sort of work is piece work, but because we have a national minimum wage if a worker slacks of they still earn the national minimum wage and so it costs the business owner more to hire lazy British workers. Again not may argument, but if this is the perception business owners have of British workers in that type of industry….
3. The current benefits system makes it hard for British workers to take these types of job. These are seasonal jobs that require a flexible work force. Basically the employer will hire a group of people to pick fruit or vegetables for a relatively short period of time (weeks to months) and it’s difficult for British people on JSA etc… to take short time work. No idea if this is all true, but it did make some sense. If this is true the government needs to make it easier for unemployed people to take on short term work.
David
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
David, it is a fact that Labour (and Tory) have handed our sovereignty over to Europe without a referendum.
It is a fact that they have flooded Britain with imigrants.
It is a fact that they have involved us in wars that have nothing to do with us.
It is a fact that unemployment and crime are both very high.
It is a fact that they have failed Britain, and the British people.
It is a fact that they have no idea what they are doing.
I don’t suppose the BNP will do any better, but by their very existence they have proven that this country is no longer a fair and democratic country, and they have proven that you and your site are not fair and democratic either.
I prefer the BNP to the undemocratic and anti-British bigots who are always deriding them without just cause.
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
I wouldn’t go quite as far as you put it, Labour/Tories have not handed our sovereignty over to Europe, but I do agree we should have had a referendum before any serious power is moved to Europe.
I wouldn’t say flooded with immigrants, but agree they have let way too many unskilled worker in. Also the controls on our borders were lacking, still not perfect, (student visas are still a BIG issue) but improving. The government should have put controls on immigration much sooner, they always seem to be a couple of steps behind what needs to be done.
I pretty much agree with the sentiments behind these points (copied below), even though they aren’t completely true: some MPs know what they are doing (national minimum wage is good for ordinary British people for example) and they haven’t completely failed Britain (we are one of the top countries for attracting foreign investment), but could and should do much better for us.
“It is a fact that unemployment and crime are both very high.
It is a fact that they have failed Britain, and the British people.
It is a fact that they have no idea what they are doing.”
I don’t understand what you mean by:
“I don’t suppose the BNP will do any better, but by their very existence they have proven that this country is no longer a fair and democratic country”
I agree the BNP wouldn’t do any better, I think they’d do much worse. I don’t understand how the existence of the BNP proves “that this country is no longer a fair and democratic country”? Unless you are saying the BNP aren’t fair or democratic? I’d agree with that if it’s your point.
I honestly don’t care what you or any BNP supporters think of me or my site.
David
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
The only real complaint I have about your site is this;
You use comments gleaned from who knows where, without being able to cite primary sources and promulgate it as fact. Hearsay, and data from unreferenced material is not fact. It is hypothetical at best or a pure fabrication at worst. Either way unreferenced material is worthless and cannot support any argument.
“Either way unreferenced material is worthless and cannot support any argument.”
I wouldn’t quite go that far since the comments are for discussion not just for copying and pasting facts/statistics from other sources. That being said I do agree with you generally, commenter’s should reference anything they post as fact if they want it to be believable.
The comment you responded to which parts do you think I should have provided references for?
About the only statistic I mentioned (kind of) was
“we are one of the top countries for attracting foreign investment”
And I have referenced this in other comments I’ve made and wrote an article on it http://www.45-year-old-millionaire.co.uk/britain-attracts-foreign-investors-and-entrepreneurs.html
“The report referred to is at http://www.prosperity.com/rankings.aspx Britain is ranked number 12 out of the 104 countries overall, which is pretty good IMO.”
Most of my comment was discussion and my opinion and didn’t require reference unless someone asked for one or disputed what I wrote.
Now the person I responded to (g.curtis) posted a list of “facts” with no referencing at all. g.curtis should have said IMO rather than fact as what he/she posted as facts are not facts, but opinion. Would be great if the odd BNP commenter would reference their sources, most spout a load of BS figures that make no sense at all.
David
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
g curtis.Bnp WILL leave the Eu when elected
the eu,foreign aid,quangos,wasted wars and worst of all lives of our lads lost for nothing,to name a few cost us the british taxpayer approx 840 billion pounds a year plus the lives of our dear british soldiers who cannot be replaced.The taliban are not our enemy.can you imagine them coming over here if we weren’t there,all they are doing is defending there country from invaders,but are we allowed to defend our shores from the stealth of invaders? NO.The BNP will never surrender to invasion unlike the perverse,failed policies of multiculturalism,extreme left liberalism and the incorporation of the eu charter on human rights incorporated into british law in 2002 by the traitors in the labour party.I don’t think the BNP can do any worse than the elitist parties,i think they could buy enough bother boots to kick the likes of david and his UAF pervs out of this country and still have change out of £840 bilion.I’m sure that won’t cause offence
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
“Bnp WILL leave the Eu when elected”
You know what would be awesome, if the BNP would voluntarily leave the EU now, can I suggest the North Pole where the landscape suits the BNP’s perfect world: it’s all white. I’m sure we could all do a quick whip round for the one way tickets and a generous repatriation grant for the few thousand true BNP people like yourself who hate Britain!
“i think they could buy enough bother boots to kick the likes of david and his UAF pervs out of this country and still have change out of £840 bilion.”
Good to see the real BNP still exist, if you can’t beat someone in reasoned debate, resort to violence! We live in 2010 multicultural Britain not 1930s Fascist Germany where the boot ruled!
David
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
Is it possible you could give a link to the BNPs policy of National service ?
Wow.
You still believe the crap on Global Warming.
If you can’t even tell the truth about AGM/CLIMATE CHANGE SCAM how can anybody trust what you say on any subject and especially the BNP.
Typical Ignorance. I blame New Labours Education system for the DUMBING DOWN of people like yourself.
“I blame New Labours Education system for the DUMBING DOWN of people like yourself.”
How old do you think I am?
I was educated under a Conservative government, so blame them :-)
David
As stated by others earlier, same difference! As for “conspiracy theories” I suggest you do some serious research. True, there are of course some wild and spurious theories out there, but the internet makes it easy to check the facts for yourself. Maybe ask yourself why so much information, often supported with video evidence is conveniently ignored by the main stream media, especially the Orwellian B(Big) B(Brother) Corporation. The “conspiracy” guys have a plethora of valid research to support their theories. Check out David Icke who often states “Don’t believe me, check it out for yourself and draw your own conclusions” I strongly suggest people do that with the information being put forward by the BNP. Personally, I have my own opinions. I suggest we all do likewise. It would just be more useful if we did this without resorting to discrediting other people’s beliefs. I believe that right to be true Democracy. By the way, it’s spelt LOSE if it’s lost, LOOSE if it doesn’t fit.
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
So you take information from Wikipedia and make decisions about the BNP based upon what you have read on Wiki.
That’s all that needs to be said.
You have NO CREDIBILTY, and you shot yourself in the foot.
No wonder this country is in rapid decline. Idiots are allowed to put foreward their uninformed point-of-view as FACT.
Where do we get accurate British National Party facts from then? BNP website is filled with lies.
Already dealt with the Wikipedia argument at http://www.general-election-2010.co.uk/reasons-to-vote-british-national-party-bnp-2010-general-election.html/comment-page-31#comment-4822
If you’d care to list what you think I got wrong and why, I’m up for the debate.
You’ll not be the first BNP supporter to say I got the Reasons to Vote British National Party article all wrong and didn’t say why, saying I’m wrong does not make it true, you have to actually prove why I’m wrong :-)
Prove me wrong and I’ll change it as I want it to be an accurate article about the BNP (I don’t want to intentionally mislead potential voters).
David
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
The BNP’s National Service commitment is part of the BNP Defence policy which I have a full copy of at: http://www.general-election-2010.co.uk/bnp-policies-defence-%E2%80%93-no-more-cuts.html there’s a link to the original BNP Defence policy document on the page above.
“- Restore national service for our young with the option of civil or military service.”
As it’s only a mention of national service (the BNP don’t have a full 2010 general election manifesto yet) I dug deeper and the BNPs 2005 General Election Manifesto mentions it quite a bit.
I’ve uploaded a copy of the The 2005 BNP General Election Manifesto to my site at: http://www.general-election-2010.co.uk/bnp-manifesto/BNP-General-Election-Manifesto-2005.pdf as it’s not that easy to find online.
Under the BNP no military service = no right to vote.
Have I proved my point yet or does anyone want to deny this is from the BNP and I’ll keep posting this over and over again so pretty much every visitor to these BNP debate pages know the BNP are looking to remove their right to vote if they refuse to do military service?
Amazes me why candidates in areas where the BNP are a threat don’t use this sort of information, it’s far more powerful than the racist argument as lots of people are racist to some degree (people are selfish).
Fighting the BNP on immigration policy is fighting them on their strong ground as the British public like the simplicity of BNP immigration policy, they don’t care/understand that it’s bad for our economy and will cause mass unemployment or our standing in the world. If you don’t fully understand the issues and a BNP activists knocks on your door unannounced with a copy of Voice of Freedom after they’ve enquired with the BNP and are told something like.
The BNP will remove all the immigrants that are taking our jobs and council house, that means there will be a job for all British born people and many more council houses.
Simple argument for simple minds :-)
David
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
“The British National Party (BNP) is a far-right political party.”
WRONG the BNP is a centre party NOT far/extreme right. There are far more right wing parties than the bnp in Britain today.
“The BNP under Nick Griffin wasted 10s of thousands of pounds of their member’s fees on fighting their illegal whites only membership policy through the courts.”
WRONG. We were dragged to the courts by a corrupt system determined to destroy us. Court fees were inevitable. The EGM at which the MAJORITY of bnp voting members voted to change the constitution was delayed by severe weather conditions.
Some members wanted to keep the constitution unchanged simply because of principle. The Black Police Association was not hauled up to court to change its membership criteria. Nor was the association of black lawyers. Why should they be allowed to keep restricting membership based on ethnicity when we are not? Equality and all that.
It restricted membership to only people of “Caucasian origin”.
WRONG. Membership was restricted to those of INDIGENOUS BRITTISH DESCENT. This meant the native peoples of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales. Also known as the British Isles and referred to in the constitution as our homeland. Guess what the native brits are white. Big deal. If native brits were black we would still have restricted membership.
The BNP does not care about Skin Colour. Never has. We care about the British Culture and way of life and want to preserve it for our future and our children.
“Firm but voluntary and very expensive incentives for immigrants and their descendants to return home”
If Migrants want to go home they can go and we will help them. We won’t forcibly deport every single migrant we find. Only Illegal Migrants and Legal ones who have broken the law. Can’t say that’s not fair.
“This policy would cost British tax payers billions and result in a shortage of trained workers”
WRONG. This policy would not cost billions. I doubt there are very many migrants who WANT to go home. We WILL help those that do. The education reforms (teaching skills and trades in school and scrapping student loans/debt ((education is a right NOT a privilege so education at college/university would be free for all supported and paid for by the state in the form of grants)) so that more people can learn valuable skills that benefit a working society) will ensure that there is no shortage of trained workers.
“And the repeal of anti-discrimination legislation whilst adding more discriminating legislation to favour the “indigenous population”.
We won’t be adding discriminating legislation to favour the indigenous. The repeal of these laws is for one simple fact. The job should go to the person best suited for it. NOT the person who helps fill a politically correct quota. Best man for the job.
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
““The British National Party (BNP) is a far-right political party.”
WRONG the BNP is a centre party NOT far/extreme right. There are far more right wing parties than the bnp in Britain today. ”
ROFLOL, LOL, PMSLOL
You put your comment in the wrong section try, http://www.general-election-2010.co.uk/political-jokes next time.
BNP not a far-right political party, I’ve not laughed so hard in years :-)
By writing the BNP aren’t far right you completely discredit the rest of your comment so much I don’t even have to waste my time explaining why you are so wrong, wrong, wrong on everything.
Thank you so much, for the belly laughs, I’ve given your comment a thumbs up.
David
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
“The British National Party (BNP) is a far-right political party.”
Since I did invite this type of comment and despite what you’ve said is a bit of a joke, I should respond.
Pretty much every source you’ll find will list the BNP as far right politically. It’s a joke to argue they are a centre politics party.
“The BNP under Nick Griffin wasted 10s of thousands of pounds of their member’s fees on fighting their illegal whites only membership policy through the courts.”
I love the black Police Association argument/comparison. The Black Police Association is not a political party, my understanding is it’s not illegal to have an organisation like the BPA to only allow members of one race, sex etc… That being said the BPA do allow white members, though not full members. Not familiar with the Association of Black Lawyers (same concept as the BPA?).
It is illegal for a political party to prevent membership on race. Do I agree with that law, NO, because political parties are out to represent a particular group in society and I have no problem with the BNP only representing white people born in Britain (why not?). If that’s what the British electorate want as MPs, so be it, if not they won’t vote BNP, isn’t that the whole point of politics? I don’t see this as any different to Labour representing the working class and the Conservatives representing big business and rich people.
My point was the BNP had an illegal whites only membership policy, (remind us how many non white members the BNP had again?) doesn’t matter if you or I agree the law that makes their membership policy illegal is wrong, what matters is the BNP leadership should have known better than to waste all that money on fighting a court case they couldn’t possibly win under current laws when a general election was approaching. That money probably could have fielded 400+ BNP candidates had they not wasted all that money on court case they couldn’t win! It suggests they are fiscally irresponsible or don’t want to gain power!
It restricted membership to only people of “Caucasian origin”.
Please, that’s semantics. Indigenous population as you say means white and that makes the membership policy illegal. It’s irrelevant if it’s right or wrong, there’s loads of laws that are wrong, but we still have to follow them until they are changed (if ever).
“Firm but voluntary and very expensive incentives for immigrants and their descendants to return home”
The above is a BNP policy from the 2005 general election manifesto, the exact wording is:
“We will end immigration to the UK and reduce our land’s population burden by
creating firm but voluntary incentives for immigrants and their descendants to
return home.”
The concept behind this policy is to reduce the number of people living in Britain, with a tendency to benefit the indigenous population: British white people aren’t offered a generous incentive to leave (the BNP want white people to stay).
This policy is in place in Denmark and it’s costing a small fortune to persuade settled immigrants to up and leave to their original country with their families.
“This policy would cost British tax payers billions and result in a shortage of trained workers”
What has education reforms got to do with the costs of a voluntary repatriation scheme and the immediate shortages this would have on the country? Education/training takes years, unless you think your BNP brothers can over night become trained and experienced doctors, nurses and dentists to replace those the BNP have paid to leave?
It would take over a decade to replace the trained migrant workers we’d loose under a BNP government! And that’s assuming we could get the numbers in training ASAP, if it was that easy, why isn’t it already happening, why are not enough of our young people training to be doctors, engineers, scientists etc..?
For the repatriation policy to have an effect on the population it’s got to be taken up by millions of settled immigrants. It’s been shown in Denmark for this to work the government has to offer a lot of money, if you want to get rid of millions of legally settled immigrants it’s going to cost billions. Do the research you’ll see I’m right.
If it doesn’t get rid of millions from our population, what’s the point, that would make it a failed BNP policy?
Add to this the BNP want to reduce the number of Muslims in Britain, you can imagine the people this “firm but voluntary incentives” policy would target for voluntary repatriation. I’m curious what “firm but voluntary” means?
“And the repeal of anti-discrimination legislation whilst adding more discriminating legislation to favour the “indigenous population”.
Erm, the BNP are always talking about British Jobs for British Workers, that’s not a “Best man for the job” approach (I agree it should be best man for the job). If the BNP gained power and brought in British Jobs for British Workers legislation that would be discriminating legislation to favour the “indigenous population”.
David
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
Pretty much every source you’ll find will list the BNP as far right politically. It’s a joke to argue they are a centre politics party.
Pretty much every source is against us mate. What do you expect them to say?
I love the black Police Association argument/comparison. The Black Police Association is not a political party, my understanding is it’s not illegal to have an organisation like the BPA to only allow members of one race, sex etc… That being said the BPA do allow white members, though not full members. Not familiar with the Association of Black Lawyers (same concept as the BPA?).
Regardless of whether or not it’s a political group or not NO group should be allowed to restrict membership on the basis of race. If one can do then so can anyone that is the point.
Please, that’s semantics. Indigenous population as you say means white and that makes the membership policy illegal
Actually no. If a polish/Russian/Norwegian or any other white person from ANY country came here and registered as a British citizen they would still not have been allowed membership even though they were white because they are not indigenous brits. We don’t care about skin colour.
British white people aren’t offered a generous incentive to leave
Bring a pole who registered as British. The offer would be open to him. Oh yeah he’d be white and legally (not ethnically) British.
What has education reforms got to do with the costs of a voluntary repatriation scheme and the immediate shortages this would have on the country? Education/training takes years, unless you think your BNP brothers can over night become trained and experienced doctors, nurses and dentists to replace those the BNP have paid to leave?
They wouldn’t all leave on the same day you know. It would take time. That time would be used to train our people and give them the skills that would be needed. Also why should we selfishly take highly skilled workers such as doctors from third world countries that desperately need them? (Third world countries are an utter mess you know)
why are not enough of our young people training to be doctors, engineers, scientists etc..?
Because this government places emphasis not on trade, skill and labour but knowledge. The government attitude is that we will base our economy on knowledge and other countries like china can do the nasty metal banging and labour. An attitude i find quite racist to be honest. We think we are superior and can use our knowledge (when Asians have proven to be on average more intelligent than us) but the poor little Chinese/Indian peasant can just sit there and hit metal with a hammer all day.
Add to this the BNP want to reduce the number of Muslims in Britain
No we don’t we want an end to extremism and that’s all. This is a Christian country so we want it to remain a Christian country. We have no problem with moderate Muslims (who make up the vast majority) who don’t force their opinions on everyone and respond with violence to every real or imagined minor rebuttal.
Erm, the BNP are always talking about British Jobs for British Workers, that’s not a “Best man for the job” approach (I agree it should be best man for the job). If the BNP gained power and brought in British Jobs for British Workers legislation that would be discriminating legislation to favour the “indigenous population”.
Aye British Jobs SHOULD go to British Workers. People whose family has lived here for multiple generations and has made contributions to society. Not newly arrived migrants fresh off the boat.
The British jobs thing was in response to the massive number of employers only hiring migrants who work for a pittance.
And it’s worse than that. A Bernard Matthews packing plant in England will now not hire any British person AT ALL REGARDLESS OF SUITABILITY UNLESS HE CAN PROVE HE CAN SPEAK POLISH FLUENTLY. How many brits do you think there are whose job opportunities include packing sausages into crates who can speak polish?
Also in regard to this comment.
““The British National Party (BNP) is a far-right political party.”
WRONG the BNP is a centre party NOT far/extreme right. There are far more right wing parties than the bnp in Britain today. ”
ROFLOL, LOL, PMSLOL
You put your comment in the wrong section try, http://www.general-election-2010.co.uk/political-jokes next time.
BNP not a far-right political party, I’ve not laughed so hard in years :-)
Stop with the sarky comments. There is no need for them. Also I’m from Glasgow so no one beats us weegies for sarcastic humour.
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
BNP political conspiracy theories again, what a shock a BNP supporter believes in conspiracies!
Let me get this right, everyone is against the BNP, so it’s some big conspiracy to mislead the country, NO the world into believing the BNP is a far right political party when it’s really just another center ground party like Labour, Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats?
Tell you what Mark, for arguments sake lets say you are right about everything. Everyone is against the BNP for whatever reason, they aren’t a bunch of racist white supremacists and all the negativity about the BNP is political propaganda to keep them out of power or something.
Lets look at the BNP policies like we would say the Labour party policies or the Conservative party policies and judge them on their merits.
The BNP plan to link the right to vote with serving in the military, either actually in the military or some form of national service.
How do you feel about having your right to vote linked to doing some form of military service, do you agree with this undemocratic policy and if so why?
Do you like the idea of every household having to own a firearm, (not a choice, but HAVE to own one) though if you don’t do military service you can’t own a gun. I suppose a BNP slogan could be:
No gun, no vote!
After we’ve discussed this BNP policy we can cover another one Mark.
I think this is more than reasonable, you get to shout the virtues of the BNP policies, which after all is why people vote for political parties (what they’ll do if they gain power).
David
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
Let me get this right, everyone is against the BNP, so it’s some big conspiracy to mislead the country, NO the world into believing the BNP is a far right political party when it’s really just another center ground party like Labour, Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats?
The three main parties are against us as are the mass media. The media is how the majority of people get their information. They just sit there listen to what the government tells them and automatically believe it. If the news says it true then it must be true is their thought process. The news constantly calls us racists and bigots and so the people think we are. Unfortunately this brings in some people who like us because they think we are racists and bigots but no worries because they quickly leave or don’t bother with us after they realize we won’t tolerate racism in the party.
Labour, Tories and the Lib Dems. Do you honestly suspect that these parties would EVER want to tell the people the truth about us? The labour government is made up of mostly so called “Ex” communists (no such thing as an ex-communist really) these far left nutjobs are hardly going to go about telling everyone that a nationalist party has good ideas now are they? Corrupt, selfish, arrogant and greedy this is the basis of our disgusting red commie government. Their frantic and hysterical attempts to silence us with repeated smear campaigns, lies and plain violence (the violent UAF are sponsored by all three parties and funded with taxpayers’ money. Do you want YOUR tax money to go to a group dedicated to the removal of free speech and democracy in Britain?) are the result of the fact that they KNOW people are turning to us, listening to us because we speak common sense and that we genuinely have Britain’s interests at heart.
The BNP plan to link the right to vote with serving in the military, either actually in the military or some form of national service.
Soldiers don’t have the right to vote now either. A vote is cast on their behalf for the party that is currently in power. I have it on good authority (from my servicemen friends both past and current) that most of the armed forces support the bnp but can’t come out and say it for fear of losing their jobs.
We will introduce a return to national service. Military or civil service is your choice however. The voting for soldiers would stay the same i assume. The bnp will NEVER remove the right to vote from ANY British person. We brits fought and died for the right of the common man to vote. To take that right away would be an insult to those brave men who challenged the all-powerful might of a tyrannical king.
Do you like the idea of every household having to own a firearm, (not a choice, but HAVE to own one) though if you don’t do military service you can’t own a gun.
From the bnp 2005 manifesto.
The Firearms part of this manifesto is for people to be able to protect their homes and families from intruders wishing to cause them serious harm.
Non army personnel may not keep an Assault Rifle but may own shotguns, bolt action rifles, handguns and such. No automatic weapons will be available to people who were never in the military.
This is mainly for self-defence from robberies and personal attacks but also in the exceptionally unlikely instance that a government becomes so convinced of its own power that it starts to ignore our basic rights and welfare. In other words if our government ends up like the government of third world countries then at least the ability of the government to use force to suppress us is greatly diminished when we have the capability of fighting back. This is the system that is in place in Switzerland AND America.
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
I’ve read the BNP 2005 General Election Manifesto which is where I found the information about the BNP’s national service plans and plan to link the right to vote with military service.
“The bnp will NEVER remove the right to vote from ANY British person.”
But they will Mark, take a read of my comment at http://www.general-election-2010.co.uk/reasons-to-vote-british-national-party-bnp-2010-general-election.html/comment-page-30#comment-5085
Here’s the important parts from the comment.
The BNP’s National Service commitment is part of the BNP Defence policy which I have a full copy of at: http://www.general-election-2010.co.uk/bnp-policies-defence-%E2%80%93-no-more-cuts.html there’s a link to the original BNP Defence policy document on the page above.
“- Restore national service for our young with the option of civil or military service.”
As it’s only a mention of national service (the BNP don’t have a full 2010 general election manifesto yet) I dug deeper and the BNPs 2005 General Election Manifesto mentions it quite a bit.
I’ve uploaded a copy of the The 2005 BNP General Election Manifesto to my site at: http://www.general-election-2010.co.uk/bnp-manifesto/BNP-General-Election-Manifesto-2005.pdf as it’s not that easy to find online.
Under the BNP no military service = no right to vote.
This is directly from the BNP, not made up by the media or the Lib/Lab/Con political conspirator’s, this is British National Party policy.
Don’t worry about it Mark you aren’t the first BNP supporter and won’t be the last to comment on my site without actually understanding what the BNP plan to do in your name when you vote for them.
Again now you know what the BNP want to do, do you agree with linking military service with the right to vote?
A yes or no answer with an explanation if yes would be appreciated.
BTW I indented (used a blockquote) the BNP 2005 General Election Manifesto quote in your last comment to make it clear what was BNP policy and what was your comment so we didn’t need your second comment (deleted now) explaining the end of the quote.
David
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
Right sorry about the delay i was looking out info on the subject.
David the right to vote connected with national service was scrapped in 2005 i believe. It’s certainly not in the latest manifesto/constitution.
Here are some other BNP polices (and other parties that hold them)
We support the return of corporal punishment(Conservative)
Capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers. (Conservative/arguably socialist)
Reintroduction of military service. (Likewise, Conservative/Socialist)
More share ownership/workers co-operatives. (very socialist policy, that)
Extra resources for gifted and struggling children (very Liberal policy)
Repossessed houses becoming Council houses (social democratic)
Animal welfare and environmental rights (Liberal)
Support Greenpeace and the ban on whaling (cross-party)
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
“the right to vote connected with national service was scrapped in 2005 i believe.”
Mark I’ve looked into this in detail and I’ve not seen any announcements it was removed as a policy. Where did you get this information from or are you assuming it’s removed?
Why would they remove it in 2005 when it was part of the 2005 manifesto?
“It’s certainly not in the latest manifesto/constitution.”
The BNP don’t have a 2010 manifesto yet, unless I’ve missed it?
They have some brief policy snippets, but no actual detailed manifesto like they had for the 2005 general election.
David
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
ROFLOL do you really think this site is some kind of democracy where you can vote the moderator out and replace him/her with a person of your choice?
I realise you are a BNP supporter, so not very clever, but you must realise I own this web site? Seriously, you can’t be that deluded to believe this is some kind of collective community where you have democratic rights, can you???
Your comment comes from the premise that moderating this site is my job or something, hired by the owner who can take the role away. I paid MY money to register the domain name general-election-2010.co.uk, which I and I alone will own for as long as I pay the yearly registration fees (plan to keep it forever BTW). I also pay for the hosting (dedicated server at $99 a month), built the website, gained it really good rankings in Google etc… that generates quite a bit of traffic.
It case it’s not sunk in, I own this website and only I get to moderate comments. If you don’t like it, don’t comment on MY website.
Now if you feel you could do a better job, make your way over to a domain name registration company like Fasthosts (good for .co.uk domains) or Godaddy (they don’t do .co.uk domains), register a domain name, buy some web hosting and off you go showing us how it should be done without upsetting BNP supporters.
Your ONLY recourse if you believe this: “I find your remarks about the BNP offensive and so much out of context” is to comment on MY site and be thankful I don’t delete your comments. Be aware, commenting on MY site is a privilege NOT a right, those who abuse the privilege have their comments deleted.
Good luck if you start a general election site and let us know how it goes :-)
WOW I can understand why this commenter votes BNP. I wouldn’t be surprised under a BNP government that my site would be “acquired” by the government for the public good.
David
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
As a BNP supporter what you’ve just accused me of is very funny.
When I started this site I was relatively ignorant of the BNP (knew what the media told me, racist/fascist party). I gave the BNP commenter’s a chance and discussed politics openly with them not assuming they were all racist/fascists only to be insulted whenever I disagreed with them!
So blame the earlier BNP supporting commenter’s for my current approach of not wasting my time being nice to BNP commenter’s! Also doesn’t help that the vast majority refuse to engage in real debate, take the BNPs national service policy, no BNP supporters want to discuss that the BNP plan to remove the right to vote for those who haven’t done some form of military service! Do you like that BNP policy?
If you read the BNP comments on my site you’ll find according to some BNP supporters:
I’m a member of UAF.
I’m a member of SearchLight.
I’m paid by Labour or the Conservatives to run this site.
Me and another commenter called Vote No To BNP are the same person.
I’m a traitor to Britain.
I’m conspiring to keep the BNP out of power.
I removed BNP from the poll because my pay masters told me to (LOL).
I’ve lied about the 800+ cheat BNP votes in the election poll.
And a bunch of other stuff.
And you’ve just done similar with this statement:
“Just because you and a few Britons think about PC, Human Rights and Civil Liberties 1st before the Danger of what this Islamic Cancer is doing to the World”
Assuming you know what I stand for. When have I said political correctness is important to me? I happen to despise political correctness. If you saw some of my other websites you’d think I was a racist Christian sex toy user, when I’m a non-racist atheist who used to sell adult products as a business because they have a great markup. My business (SEO Consultant) is related to websites, own over 100 of them. I am concerned about human rights and civil liberties, but no more than the average man in the street.
I don’t see Islam as a significant threat to our way of life. Actually I think the threat of Islamic terrorism and what it’s turned us into (paranoid of terrorism and Muslims) is causing more damage to our society than the actual terrorism! That’s not to say I want Islam to be embraced in this country, I think it’s a backwards religion especially when it comes to women (though I think all religions are backwards). I certainly wouldn’t want Sharia law to be part of our laws, but then I don’t see that ever happening. But then I don’t have a problem with Sharia law being practiced voluntarily by Muslims who also accept they have to live by British laws first.
“Think of 9/11 & 7/7 Were these acts justified??? Were these acts normal from Civilised people????”
No not justified, no not acts of civilised people. IRA who are Catholics used the same tactics, do you believe all Irish Catholics are murderous and uncivilised? Do you condemn the entire Catholic faith or all Irish people because of a small group who pervert it’s message?
BTW if you’ve read the Qur’an why do you call it the Koran?
Oh and I never asked BNP supporters to comment on my site. In the early months a lot of them came to my site and pretty much took over the comments, because I agree with free speech I didn’t stop them I waited for others who disagreed with the BNP to balance the comments.
When I tried to make a comment on the BNP website about the local BNP candidate in my area, the comment was deleted. At least I allow BNP supporters to comment on my site despite the BNP not allowing me to comment on their website!
David
Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
Neither are wrong, different regions different spellings I think Koran is under Roman alphabetic translation but Qu’ran (the Arabic Semitic pronunciation) is more widely accepted and used.
Just try not to get into a debate with a scholar about it:-)
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